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Breck Yunits 2021-12-02 22:19:37

Does anyone remember that person who came up with the font where you would rotate and stack the zeros vertically, like the image below? I can't remember what it was called and am struggling to Google my way back.

📷 image.png

Shon Feder 2021-12-02 22:30:24

This is funny. How do they represent, e.g., 1001? Still stacked?

Seems like it would undermine some of the utility of the Hindu–Arabic numeral system. -- I hope someone turns up the link 🙂

Breck Yunits 2021-12-02 23:03:48

@Shon Feder I forget. My hazy memory is that it was a tool for back of the envelope comparisons rather than precision calculations, and so only multiples of 1,000 were in the system, but I could be misremembering.

Kartik Agaram 2021-12-02 23:04:18

Interesting ligature.

Andrew Condon 2021-12-03 08:45:45

That is an interesting idea and i have just confirmed that i too do not have the google-fu to find it.

Andrew Heumann 2021-12-03 15:53:47

🐦 James Grimmelmann: I had a great idea while sleeping last nigtht: a THOUSAND glyph, consisting of three stacked zeros. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4QHudOXMAAWUif.png

📷 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4QHucRXwAUds_C.png

Breck Yunits 2021-12-03 20:38:27

Thanks @Andrew Heumann!

Andreas S. 2021-12-04 15:35:40

Hey 👋 I came across this: https://twitter.com/jessewldn/status/1321239372449153024?s=21 inside this:

  [https://variant.mirror.xyz/T8kdtZRIgy_srXB5B06L8vBqFHYlEBcv6ae2zR6Y_eo](https://variant.mirror.xyz/T8kdtZRIgy_srXB5B06L8vBqFHYlEBcv6ae2zR6Y_eo)

What do you think about this file analogy?

🐦 Jesse Walden: NFT is a new file format, for a file you can't copy.

🔗 NFTs make the internet ownable — Mirror

Deepak Karki 2021-12-04 16:05:55

It’s scary how crypto has brought about a group of people who don’t completely understand what they’re promoting 🤔

Andrew F 2021-12-04 21:12:39

There's nothing about publicly tracking "ownership" metadata for a piece of media that actually prevents you from copying its bits. The only way I can see that even beginning to work is with DRM hardware that respects the blockchain. I can only see that as a dystopia.

I'm holding myself from stronger language because it's possible I'm misunderstanding something, not having followed the whole NFT thing closely, but based on my understanding of what computers and cryptography can actually enforce in the real world, this seems like nonsense.

Jack Rusher 2021-12-05 07:34:02

The author of this piece appears confused.

Konrad Hinsen 2021-12-05 08:53:58

@Deepak Karki It wasn't crypto. People promoting stuff they don't understand have been around for at least as long as we have written history. It's surprising that we don't have a word for this behavior.

Konrad Hinsen 2021-12-05 08:57:41

But this thread also makes me wonder if "ownership" has come to mean something different in blockchain circles. Blockchains being closed universes, with references possible only within each universe, they cannot express any of the traditional forms of ownership, which are about a social consensus of associating something with a person and deriving behavior from it.

Andreas S. 2021-12-05 11:02:11

I actually think they are, kind of , trying to reinvent this for themselves.

Andreas S. 2021-12-05 11:04:19

It’s almost like human beings have forgotten how to trust each other and now they are trying to learn that again, being blindfolded by technology that is.