molikto 2021-04-01 12:58:25 Hello, I recently got an idea to use the spanning tree of a (knowledge) graph to edit a graph like a tree (RoamResearch), but the software's underlaying data structure are graphs. This is a very preliminary demo, it doesn't really show much:
molikto 2021-04-01 13:01:44 The theory is a note taking/knowldge graph app (or any other kind of graph that is is just a tree + sparse edges) should better be edited as a graph, but current presentation of the graph makes navigation/editing awkward. that's why people are not creating these knowledge graphs (with typed edges/node schema)
Andrew F 2021-04-01 14:19:44 Very interesting idea. I can imagine re-running the spanning tree with different weights or something to get a different view of the graph, e.g. focus on a different kind of edge, though that runs a risk of severely disorienting the user. You want the output of the spanning tree algorithm to be pretty resilient to edits...
Breck Yunits 2021-04-01 15:09:27 I think you are on to something @molikto! I'd be keen to play with this. I've worked with a number of tools and editors like this. The tree part is relatively easy, but it does get a little tricky when you have Graphs. I like your colored lines on the right. The path I've been going down lately is to visualize the words as lego bricks in 3d vis with optional tracing/auditing lines shown in 3d.
Florian Cäsar 2021-04-01 16:37:44 Uh, interesting! Second the request for playing with the demo. What has been your (or anyone elses) experience with tools like Roam?
molikto 2021-04-01 16:55:53 hello~ thanks for the interest! it is still very preliminary, maybe I will share a playable demo sometime later. I guess I just want to get some confirmation when working on "experiments" like this 🙂
molikto 2021-04-01 17:05:38 @Florian Cäsar I didn't used Roam very much, but my experience is I organize my notes with a strict schema, and the edges/connections has different types, like in a knowledge graph, but it is awkward to represent these in Roam like tools.
Breck Yunits 2021-04-01 18:44:02 That is a recent one for editing the same kind of 2-dimensional program as your example, except with a spreadsheet UX
Breck Yunits 2021-04-01 18:44:30 The programs in that language are also a graph, and you can click to view/go to all references
Breck Yunits 2021-04-01 19:16:33 I think positional editors like yours are the future, so would encourage you to keep at it!
Florian Cäsar 2021-04-02 06:16:47
I organize my notes with a strict schema, and the edges/connections has different types, like in a knowledge graph@molikto Yes, that's exactly what I have in mind! If you don't mind sharing, what does your schema look like?
